Monday, 10 May 2010

Group Name? Work Sharing

Hayley Allen Hey Guys, was just wondering if we have a group/company name yet? Any ideas? I was thinking something to do with the track line and wifi/ internet being combined something like Interground or WiLine but they are a bit crappity, so any others?
April 28 at 11:27pm

Jason Hollis Well name and logo we can say is a working progress if we haven't got one. I have all ready done a power point and you should all have it now. If you want to add any thing please do.
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Hayley Allen
Wow im impressed by the powerpoint :), im going to start looking into the advertising costs tomorrow n how we would go about doing that side of things if thats ok? and also patents and licenses etc
April 29 at 12:04am ·

Jason Hollis
I all ready have loads of rates cards for news papers etc. James asked for them but my rave mail has just gone down.
April 29 at 12:16am · Flag

Hayley Allen
You do realise the rest of us have to do something to... unless u want me to get more involved with the creative side of things?
April 29 at 12:19am ·

Jason Hollis
I know you guys do. I've just been doing it today coz I wanted to have something to show tomorrow.
April 29 at 12:20am · Flag

Hayley Allen
fine but after tomorrow we need to sort out whos doing what properly and us all to stick to it, its not fair only a couple of people doing all the work
April 29 at 12:24am ·

Jason Hollis
I was hoping to do nothing after this until every thing is done then just bring it together. Well the guys to know what roles they have. As you can tell I've just put you down as second in command
April 29 at 12:28am · Flag

Hayley Allen
Ok thats good, like I say I do not mind collating everything together maybe we could work on the final presentation together. Think we may need to give em a kick up the backside if not much is shown tomorrow
April 29 at 12:32am

Tom's Logo Design One


Hayley Allen
This is cool, it may look better without the little Wifi logo on it though? or more integrated into the main thing?
April 28 at 10:57pm

Oyster Cards!!

Hayley Allen Just thinking, there is a number on the back of Oyster cards isn't there? Could people use this as their log in details and that way it will automatically come off of their payments on their oyster card? Obviously then everyone would need an oyster, so i was thinking that the wifi/internet could be at a reduced rate fo...r oyster card holders like the fares themselves are and people who are just on there with a normal ticket can register and use it at a slightly higher price? we could then work with the oyster card and it could act as a two way benefit or promotion for oyster and our wifi service? that way our logos and info may get onto their leaflets etc at a lower price to us too?See More
April 16 at 1:58pm ·

Jason Hollis Thats an awesome idea. So the price I came up with could be for oyster card users. Maybe for non oyster card users it could be £1 PAYG (a day), £15 (1gb-3gb not sure on data size yet) and 1 £10 a month?As for osyer card instead of people having to look at there card each time and to not let non osyter card users feel l...eft out, couldn't you link the osyer card with a user name and password the first time they sign up. A for an extra add on i had the idea of text via wifi. You might be able to think of others. Dunno how much extra we could charge for it tho?Thanks for all the awesome ideas.See More
April 16 at 3:03pm ·

Hayley Allen A bit of info on Oyster cards if you want that as a payment method, our service could be included in this sort of info pack too
http://www.tfl.gov.uk/assets/downloads/tickets/getting-around-with-oyster-january-2010.pdf
www.tfl.gov.uk
www.tfl.gov.uk

April 16 at 4:18pm ·

Jason's Research

Jason Hollis I've not had a chance to read it. I might leave it until tomorrow as it is very text heavy. http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/gadgets/news/4329666


Underground High-Speed Internet: Testing WiMAX in Seoul Subways - Popularmechanics.com
www.popularmechanics.com
Popular Mechanics is a service magazine covering a variety of information on home improvement, automotive needs, electronics, computers, telecommunications, outdoors, fitness and science and technology. ...

April 15 at 11:14pm

Jason Hollis http://www.techradar.com/news/phone-and-communications/mobile-phones/heathrow-express-drives-wi-fi-underground-137312Just found out it's done in London to airports. so the London underground is the only option. Also both this and virgin use T mobile but complex wifi systems that not everything works with. Too late to change idea? lol
www.techradar.com
www.techradar.com

April 15 at 11:23pm

Jason Hollis http://www.mobilecomputermag.co.uk/2007090566/heathrow-express-goes-onlineSo I think how I said it would work it right just got no idea on costing yet. I dunno if to email the E&E lady asking her what she thinks we should do.


Heathrow Express goes online - Mobile Computer Mag
www.mobilecomputermag.co.uk
With more than 10,000 public Wi-Fi hotspots located around the UK, the chances are you will always be reasonably close to a location offering

April 15 at 11:38pm

Jason Hollis http://www.techradar.com/news/networking/lan/free-on-train-wi-fi-for-everyone-133450Also some thing about "parent company couldn't fund the £1.4 billion that National Express has pledged to pay the government under the new franchise"I dont know if that would be start up costs.
Free on-train Wi-Fi for everyone News TechRadar UK
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Free on-train Wi-Fi for everyone National Express pledges free Wi-Fi for East Coast line : TechRadar UK

Jason Hollis Branson sold his Virgin Mobile company to UK cable TV, broadband, and telephone company NTL/NTL:Telewest for almost £1 billion. As part of the sale, the company pays a minimum of £8.5 million per year to use theVirgin name and Branson became the company's largest shareholder. Still tyring to get ideas how much it woul...d cost. A million to much of a ruff guess? lolSee More
April 15 at 11:52pm


Jason Hollis BT (does wifi and works close with t mobile) or Virgin media (Also mobile) for the companines to do out work for us.
April 15 at 11:57pm ·

Jason Hollis http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/07/15/bt_fibre_spending/


BT opens wallet to send fibre to the home • The Register
www.theregister.co.uk
BT will spend some £1.5bn on fibre optic cables to bring decent broadband to British homes and offices, provided Ofcom acts to protect its juicy margins.

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Jason Hollis
Might help with costing.
April 15 at 11:59pm · Report

Jason Hollis Think I found the costing but also how much they will make. but remember this is advnaced tech which we dont want to do as new phones are required. 'It has been forecast that WiMAX operators will be collecting revenues of$8bn per year from 31.4 million subscribers in the Asia-Pacific region by 2012 and that spending o...n WiMAX networks will approach $2.9bn in fiveyears'started in 2007: so divide 1.8 billion (UK) by 8 = (225 million) and we might have a costing and i think that is tech alone. http://www.mobilecomms-technology.com/projects/kt-corp/See More


KT Corporation WiBro Network, Seoul - Mobile/Cellular Technology
www.mobilecomms-technology.com
News and project information on the KT Corporation WiBro Network, Seoul

April 16 at 12:14am

Jason Hollis finally a UK price so it will be this we can base the cost on.http://www.edp24.co.uk/content/edp24/news/story.aspx?brand=EDPOnline&category=NewsSplash&tBrand=EDPOnline&tCategory=xDefault&itemid=NOED08%20Feb%202010%2021%3A01%3A07%3A460Install cost: £346,000 so say more for underground and £200,000 a year running costs.M...eans we can move forward on branding and marketing.See More


Wi-fi access on Norwich to London trains - Norfolk News - EDP24
www.edp24.co.uk
Rail passengers travelling between Norwich and London will at last have access to Wi-Fi connections on their trains after a £546,000 deal was struck to provide it.

April 16 at 12:54am



April 15 at 11:44pm

Cost, Future Ideas?

Jason Hollis Just to add that remember Virgin train rides are long so can afford the high cost. A lower cost but more passengers will mean we have an edge and might attract more people.
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Hayley Allen
Yeah thats true, I was just looking at a comparable model and thought trains were the closest. We have to think of the next product too, mayb our next ideas could be wifi buses or bus stops, i think bus stops would be cool while people are waiting!
April 15 at 11:25pm ·

Jason Hollis
But we couldn't charge for that as if you have a signal you can have wifi. Just stick with the idea and see how it goes? Sell how ours would work?
April 15 at 11:30pm · Report

Hayley Allen
You could do it if they are in the middle of nowhere, or in towns outside of london that will not have as much signal. its only an idea, they did say we have to think of future projects for the company too...
April 15 at 11:33pm ·

Jason Hollis
That future bit is just there added bit. Some thing to fill the presentation if need be. Well wouldn't future plans be the other underground lines then other underground in the country.
April 15 at 11:35pm · Report

Hayley Allen
true, im just tryin to think differently lol. i was only playing to begin with :)
April 15 at 11:41pm ·

Jason Hollis
The more I read the less our idea looks good as it being done loads lol
April 15 at 11:42pm · Report

Hayley Allen
i thought that last night lol what with the research i found. i think if we found it a usp, like the way it is sold with the oyster or something, then i think that would make it successful and different
April 15 at 11:45pm ·

Jason Hollis
Well the idea is just to top up with the oyster card and use the app to log in. Thats the simple concept.
April 15 at 11:47pm · Report

Jason Hollis
Got a back up idea just incase? No to do with wifi? All I can think about it wifi atm. I'm shocked how much work I have actually put in lol
April 15 at 11:48pm · Report

Wifi Alliance

http://www.wi-fi.org/organization.php
Wi-Fi Alliance: Organization
www.wi-fi.org
In 1999 several visionary leaders came together to form a global non-profit organization with the goal of driving adoption of a single worldwide standard for high-speed wireless local area networking. We are that organization.

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Hayley Allen I think the main thing we will need to look into is this, the Wifi Alliance:http://www.wi-fi.org/knowledge_center/knowledge_center-didyouknow
Hayley Allen My thoughts so far:
* Jason where has your pricing come from in the email you sent yesterday?
*In price comparison with Virgin 50P a day is too little
*Has anyone looked into existing models from foreign countries?
*what type of internet would be used, as surely people are more likely to have 3G small devices than those wi...th Wifi?
*what would happen if the customer has more than one device? On mcdonalds wifi you are directed to their website first and have to register and sign in each time, would this be appropriate?let me know what you think :) xxSee More
April 15 at 10:18pm